Do Gentiles Become Jews When They Get Saved? Is The Gentile Church A "Spiritual" Israel? Part 2

New Life In An Old Olive Tree In Israel

Wow, It seems every time I do a blog relating to Israel it generates a mega load of comments. That's good! we can all learn from one another.

That God loves Israel there is no doubt.

That God has a plan for Israel there is no doubt.

That we all should have a love for Israel there is no doubt.

That we should pray for the peace of Jerusalem there is no doubt.

I really appreciate all your input on this subject. I don't claim to understand all things when it comes to this subject, but I want to gain full understanding. I did a blog on the feasts once and it got so volatile that I had to remove it, the comments became vicious, and that is not edifying or conducive to anyone learning anything.

I did not include all the scriptures that pertain to this subject in my last blog, simply because it would have made it to long. I had contemplated naming the last blog Part 1 and adding more to the study, and since a brother pointed out to me that I had neglected to include Ephesians 2:11-14, I felt the need to go ahead and do a Part 2.

Paul, who wrote the scriptures I quoted from in Romans and Galatians, in Part 1 also wrote Ephesians, and doesn't seem to me to contradict himself one bit.

Ephesians 2:11-22
11.Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12. That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

13. But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Through salvation in Christ both Jew and Gentile alike become one man, heirs of the promise together.

15. Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16. And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

17. And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

18. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

So Gentiles and Jews, are one in Christ, through salvation in His name.

19. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;We are now, through salvation in Jesus Christ, members of the household of God, and fellow citizens with all the saints of God.

Through Salvation in Jesus Christ we are brothers and sisters in Him with Israel, with the Jews, who accept Yeshua. We become one body in HIM.

20. And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

The Apostles and prophets by the way were like Jesus, also Jew's.

21. In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22. In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Through the Salvation in Christ we are no longer strangers to the covenants of promise. Our bodies are the temple of the living God the dwelling place of His Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:12-14
12. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

13. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

14. For the body is not one member, but many.

That we will be one with Israel in the end is no doubt. Jesus has one bride, there is one New Jerusalem where in all the children of God shall dwell, those whose names are found in the Lambs book of life from the foundation of the world. So through Jesus Christ we do become one with Israel.
We are to love Christ above all and obey His commandments, and manifest His character and nature above all things.
Love for natural Israel, yet a lack of obedience to the Word of God, will not obtain for us favor with God.
As a dear sister pointed out we should not strive to be right on a matter. If we love God we will love our brother and keep His commandments. It is more important that we manifest Christ, than we be right on all points; when it comes to understanding all the mysteries of scripture some things are yet hidden. All scripture on the subject are yet not included, but those that have been posted give us a picture of our relationship to the Jew's and Israel, may we all study to show ourselves approved unto God.

2 Timothy 2:15-18
15. Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16.But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17.And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18.Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

We do not desire to weaken nor destroy the faith of any, nor dispute for the sake of disputing. We desire however to seek understanding that none be led astray from the truth.

The lie that is perpetrated by many in the church today, that the Gentile Church has replaced natural Israel, must be exposed for what it is..a lie.

Please feel free to submit more input, we can all learn thereby...may we grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Do Gentiles Become Jews When They Get Saved? Is The Gentile Church A "Spiritual Israel?" Part 1

Ahhh....So much is being taught these days in regards to this subject, that I feel led to share what I see written in the Word of God, in regards to this matter.

Galatians 3:27-29
27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

This Word written by Paul does not say we become Jews, it says we are one in Christ. It says there is neither Jew nor Greek etc....It says that we become Abraham’s seed, and heirs of the same promises as all of Abraham’s seed, which includes Israel. Abraham was before Jacob, Jacob was the one who was re-named “Israel”, not Abraham….We as adopted children become heirs according to the promise.

Ahhh...but some will say, "A Jew is one by circumcision of the heart" so the gentiles heart is circumcised, so therefore they are Jews...Oh really....in this scripture below is not talking to the gentiles he is speaking to Jews.

Romans 2:23-29

23Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

It does not say that a Gentile becomes a Jew by circumcision of the heart, remember that a Gentile becomes a part of the body of Christ by salvation, they don’t become Jew’s. It says a Jew is a Jew by circumcision of the heart…
God says, "Rend your hearts and not your garments", it’s the heart that God is interested in it is the heart that God has always wanted…He is interested in the hearts of the Jewish people he wants their hearts.

Joel 2:12-13

Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:

13And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.

Paul was speaking to the Jews not to the Gentiles. The Gospel of Jesus Christ was to be first preached to the Jews.

We are all "one in Christ Jesus" once we accept Him as our Savior and Lord..
So saved Gentiles do not become Jews, the church does not become Israel…spiritual or otherwise, we become the family of God the seed of Abraham and heir of the promises of God.
We put on the name of Jesus Christ not the name of “Jew” we put on the body of Christ not the name of “Israel” …let's get this straight saints…because many lie in wait to deceive.
Many claim that the church has replaced Israel in God’s eyes, that saints of God, is a lie.

Romans 11:1-2

1. I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.

In the context of the above scripture who is Paul speaking about when he says “Hath God cast away his people?”-He is speaking of the Jews.

Romans 11:25-27

25.For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

So saints as much as some may be in opposition to the idea, God does have an everlasting covenant, that He has never broken, with the nation of Israel, and it’s people the Jew’s. God has blinded Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. God has not forsaken Israel nor Has He replaced Her nor will He ever.

Some say God doesn't have a separate plan for Israel, yes He does. Oh they have to come to God the same way the Gentile does, through Christ Jesus, but God is going to do a work with Israel in these last days as it says here in Daniel and Jeremiah and in Romans.

Daniel 12:1

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be... a time of trouble,.. such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Jeremiah 30:7

Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even ...the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

Romans 11:28-36

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.

29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

30For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

31Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

32For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

33O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

34For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

35Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

36For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

I don't see the Word of God saying that Gentiles become Jew's at salvation, or that the church becomes a spiritual Israel, but that Gentiles become heirs of the promises given to the seed of Abraham along with the Jew's at salvation. I don't see anywhere where it says that the gentile church has replaced the Jew's or Israel in God's eyes. I see that God has had a time of dealing in mass with the Gentiles and I see a time when He will deal in mass with the nation of Israel and it's people the Jews, His plan, for His Glory!!!

So You Want To Boycott Israel?

This is educational-worldly but educational..imformative and interesting!

Wanna Hear A Load of Old Cobblers-Just So As We Don't Forget!

"Todd Bentley: God must have forgot his 12 year plan!"

"Tawd" Bentley? If it weren't so blatently false, it would be funny.

We need to pray for those who are still deceived by these false Prophets.

The Truth About The Timing of "Christ-Mass"

I am going to share some quotes from the book "The Two Babylons" by the late Rev. Alexander Hislop. This book was first published in 1916.

We are going to read from chapter 3 page 91 on the topic of Festivals, we are quoting from the sections in regards to the time of Christ's birth:

"There is not a word in scriptures about the precise day of His birth, or the time of the year when He was born. What is recorded there, implies that at what time soever His birth took place, it could not have been on the 25th of December. At the time that the angel announced His birth to the shepherds of Bethlehem, they were feeding their flocks by night in the open fields. Now, no doubt, the climate of Palestine (Israel-note this book was of course written before Israel became a nation) is not so severe as the climate in this country; but even there, though the heat of the day be considerable, the cold of the night, from December to February, is piercing, and it was not the custom for the shepherds of Judea to watch their flocks in the open fields later than about the end of October. It is in the last degree incredible, then, that the birth of Christ could have taken place at the end of December."........

"At the birth of Christ every woman and child was to go the be taxed at the city whereto they belonged, wither some had long journeys; but the middle of winter was not fitting for such a business, especially for women with child, and children to travel in. Therefore, Christ could not be born in the depth of winter .............. And if any shall think the winter wind was not so extreme in these parts, let him remember the words of Christ in the gospel, "Pray that your flight be not in the winter."

"....within the Christian Church no such festival as Christmas was ever heard of till the third century, and that not till the fourth century was far advanced did it gain much observance. How then did the Romish church (Roman Catholic church) fix on December the 25th as Christmas day? Why, thus: Long before the fourth century, and long before the Christian era itself, a festival was celebrated among the heathen, at that precise time of the year, in honor of the birth of the son of the Babylonian queen of heaven; and it may fairly be presumed that, in order to conciliate the heathen, and to swell the number of the nominal adherents of Christianity, the same festival was adopted by the Roman Church, giving it only the name of Christ.

This tendency on the part of Christians to meet Paganism half-way was very early developed....."
"Upright men strove to stem the tide but in spite of all their efforts, the apostasy went on, till the Church, with the exception of a small remnant, was submerged under Pagan superstition. That Christmas was originally a Pagan Festival, is beyond all doubt."....end quotes

Rick Warren's Walking Hand in Hand with Obama

According to the news today:
"You don't have to see eye to eye to walk hand in hand"...This is Rick Warrens response to those who are in opposition to his giving the invocation for president elect Barrack Hussein Obama...Nice to see that at least he openly admits that he is hand in hand with Barrack Hussein Obama. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D956V2H00&show_article=1


Well just where do you get that idea Rick? .....NOT the WORD of GOD...which says...

Amos 3:3
Can two walk together, except they be agreed?..Rick Warren you are in opposition to the Word of God!

Proverbs 1:10
My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.....Rick Warren you have been enticed!

Proverbs 4:14
Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men....Rick Warren you are on the wrong path!

Proverbs 24:1-2
1Be not thou envious against evil men, neither desire to be with them.

2For their heart studieth destruction, and their lips talk of mischief.

..Oh and.. evil companions corrupt good morals..

1 Cornithians 15:33
Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.

Another interpretation of this scripture is: "Evil companionship's corrupt good morals."
It is sad how easily people will compromise the Word of God for the sake of being the friend of a celebrity. This is idolatry.

Oh ...and be not unequally yoked together with unbelievers. ....

2 Corinthians 6:14-18

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

But hey if your Rick Warren I guess you just overlook all the scriptures and you do what is right in your own eyes.

Another Lie Via God-less TV

When Mike Bickle of IHOP speaks saints-don't listen.

Just happened to catch a snippet from an e-mail I got from "God TV" (that's a joke-it should be called God-less TV). These same people were the ones who broadcast Todd Bentley world wide to deceive thousands. http://www.god.tv/node/519

Photo shows Rory& Wendy Alec of God-less TV, with Mike Bickle at IHOP (International House of Prayer.)

He was telling all his large audience "Jesus will not come back until the church has shaken off the spirit of slumber, operates in the anointing of prayer and has a bridal identity"...now just where in scripture does he find that? While these things sound good, they are not truth, and we know a little leavens the whole lump. These teachings are so subtle, that the young and unlearned cannot distinguish truth from a lie.

He also states in this same video, "The center piece of what is on God's mind is to bring Heaven and Earth together." Oh really and just where do you get that from Mike Bickle?

Where in the Word of God, does Jesus say that He will not return until the "church" has made herself ready? Show us in the Word of God Mike Bickle where you find these two statements -you can't because they are not there.

Jesus said, "Behold I come as a thief"

Revelation 16:15

Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Jesus said "Be ye ready for in an hour that ye think not the son of man cometh"

Matthew 24:43-44, 48-51

But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Jesus speaks of the wise and the foolish virgins...Hello Mike Bickle!

Matthew 25:1-13

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

13Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Many will say in that day "But Lord I did this in your name, and I taught that in your name "and He will say-I know you not, so beware Mike Bickle and all those who teach from your own hearts that which God has not spoken, and is not written, God will not hold him guiltless who teaches false hood to His people.

And saints beware who you listen to and follow, if it is not written, it is not of God. If what your taught cannot be found within the Word of God-trash it and fast, because a false Word will be burnt up, but the truth of the Word of God will stand for all eternity.

What Fellowship Hath Light With Darkness?

What Communion hath Christ with Belial?

Obama Defends Rick Warren:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83969

Obama's agenda for the culture of Death in this nation:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83958

This agenda to expand the Mass Murders in this nation is Abomination pure and simple.

He who is a friend of the world is an enemy of God.

Woe unto you when all men speak well of you.

Saints we will have no need to question God's Judgment when it comes.

The Polar Shift-Are The Days Are Being Shortened?

I was watching the news today, not sure which channel but they were discussing and showing diagrams in regards to the supposed coming polar shift, you can read about it here: http://www.survive2012.com/geryl1.php

Also, according to a dear sister in Christ, evidently Rush Limbaugh was discussing the same thing today in regards to the days being shortened. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121908/content/01125114.guest.html

Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

Isaiah 24:17-23

Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.

18And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.

19The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

20The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

21And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

22And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

23Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Who Owns America?

China owns a major part of Americas Debt at least that is according to Fox News this morning. The borrower is servant to the lender.

China is building up its military http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=a36iAaScSAFQ&refer=asia

We know that the Arabs have us by the jugular over oil.

The Russians are maneuvering and weighing their options for our destruction.

The enemies of God are working to have us bow to their god's.

Our enemies are salivating over our imminent total destruction.

America we are in a dire condition, and many still refuse to see it.

The church has its head in the sand. Rick Warren prepares to give the invocation for a socialist president who will bring this country to its knees. Perhaps it will be a good place for us to be, on our knees.

We have told God we don't need Him, we can go it on our own. We have told Him we don't need to follow after that which is right. We call good evil, and evil good. Many have made merchandise out of God's people and continue to do so. Many love the world more than they love God. Many are more concerned over their money than the condition of their own souls.

We are wise in our own eyes, we are rebellious and evil, and we think that God doesn't see and He will do nothing. Big mistake folks...we a fixing to see just how much God cares, because judgment will begin with the house of God.

Jeremiah 5:19

And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, "Wherefore doeth the LORD our God all these things unto us?" then shalt thou answer them,..... "Like as ye have forsaken me, and served strange gods in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not yours."

Well it's pretty clear that this land is no longer ours. Just as God judged Israel for her sins, He is now judging the Church in America for her sins. God brought judgments upon His people, the Gentile church are His people and we have sinned before God. We have been brought into bondage through our own covetousness and now we are being overcome by that covetousness.

It will become even clearer in the months to come that we are serving the strangers that now own this country.

Here is the indictment against the church:

Jeremiah 5:25-31

Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you.

26For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

27As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

28They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge.

29Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

30A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;

31The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Many have grown fat on the backs of the children of God. Many have turned their backs while we have slaughtered our own children. We have commited abominations before God and shall He not judge for these things?

US Economy: The Philosophers Stone

Our Corporate Covetousness Has Destroyed Us America, and yes chicken little the sky is falling!

I ran across this yesterday and found it interesting to say the least!

Just for the record: No, I was not, nor am I now, a Ron Paul Supporter. Politics is not my thing.

They Know "Jingle Bells" But They Don't Know Jesus!

They celebrate "Christ-Mass" but they don't know Christ.

My eyes have really been opened concerning "Christ-Mass", and I am fully aware that this may make me as popular as a pork pie at a Jewish picnic, but none the less, I must share.

The Lord has been dealing with me on this subject for some time and this year, and at this time, it is has really become clear and blatant to me the contrast between "Christmas lovers" and "Christ lovers".

As I watched the news this morning a young lady was singing "Jingle Bells" all happy as a lark, and I know she doesn't know Christ or desire to live according to His Word.

Then they interviewed a little girl who was wanting a $100.00 doll for "Christ-Mass". She was trying to sell some of her other toys on "Craig's list" to purchase this other doll. The TV show evidently found this such a touching story that they purchased it for her. They were all thrilled with themselves...it frankly disgusted me. This little girl, her mother and those Christ-less hosts were totally unaware that they had just taught and excellent lesson in covetousness.

That is what "Christ-Mass" is all about for most people, and I have to admit that I have fallen in that category myself for years. First I taught my kids to covet the best that we could afford for Christ-Mass, we even used to charge gifts for Christmas. Then as the years passed I began to teach the grand kids the same thing....Oh we didn't teach them about Santa Clause but we taught them to covet. We told them Christmas was all about Jesus, but it wasn't!

People say it's all about Christ, but we lie, it's all about who gets the best presents, who gives the best presents. It really is a disgustingly blatant exercise in covetousness. People say well its a time of year to get together with family, well why not get together with family all through the year, why not show love all year, why not be generous all year. Just a thought!

Then we have had "Christians" screaming not to take Christ out of Christmas, ...Christ never was in Christ-Mass...Christmas has its modern day roots in the church of Rome for the most part.

"Christ-Mass" in this day and time has been all about covetousness for years. Everyone wants a piece of "Christmas". Even the "Christian" Stores and ministries.....the covetousness is rampant, the children are drenched in it. It is all over the idiot box, everyone and there uncle has a "Christmas Special", and it's all about covetousness, not about Christ. You can see a sample of all this merchandizing of God's people here: http://www.apostasywatch.com/special/merchants.htm

Just how many people are aware that Jesus was not even born in December, or that the Wise Men never visited Jesus when He was a baby?
How many know that Jesus wasn't born in a stable, more than likely He was born in a tabernacle.
For a great audio on the subject of Christmas: http://www.apostasywatch.com/audio/christmas2.mp3

While the world spends themselves silly and overeats this season, let us seek to be set free from the spirit of covetousness that overwhelms this season. God bless you all, yes I know it's hard to consider all these things, but if you want the truth seek Jesus on these things.

SUV'S ON THE ALTAR!

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS SAINTS OF GOD? YES YOU CAN!

America, we are a nation given over to covetousness, without repentance! Look what the church is doing in Detroit ... http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-159457

GOD IS TEARING DOWN YOUR IDOLS-And church your so blind that you cannot see or understand. Your lust for the things of this world have brought you to this place in history.

Big time evangelists have lead the way for all this covetousness that is leading companies to ruin. How long do you suppose its going to be before, let's say for example, that KENNETH COPELAND puts his JETS on the altar? Covetousness leads to ruin!

Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

These people and those like them have broken the commandment of God that says-THOU SHALT NOT COVET- and they have taught the people of God to covet by their example-and their judgment is upon them, and all those who follow in their steps.

“YOU TAUGHT MY PEOPLE TO COVET, YOU CHOKED THEM ON THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD" - This will be the indictment of many a pastor and evangelist today, they make merchandise out of God’s people.

2 Peter 2:3
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words (not genuine) make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Another Mega Church In The Making - Las Vegas Style!

Another Emerging Star-Pastor Craig Gross -Pastor of The Strip Church!

Its name is "The Strip Church"-Sin Cities Little Church House" see for yourselves: http://stripchurch.com/ navigate it well you can click on xxx.church and see photos and click on them and get loads of info.



...I happened to catch a glimpse of its "Pastor" being interview on "Night line" last night...http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/ "Sin City Saviors" is the title of the show... a few minutes is all I could stomach...Here we have another example of a segment of the "Church" re-packaging Jesus Christ in order to make Him appealing to the world, this time the target area is Las Vegas...ahhhhh...

Oh dear it seems that some never get it ... the Truth of the Gospel is all that is needed, and then the Holy Spirit goes to work on a soul... that's to easy, that doesn't gain attention or mammon!

It makes me sick how some cheapen Jesus Christ and think they have to bring Him down to a level where they see themselves better able to entice people to accept Him. They use huge signs in public reading "Jesus Loves Porn Stars". This young evangilist is along the lines of Joel Osteen in his doctrine, God Help Las Vegas!

Listen, sinners know that they are not accepted of God. Having been lost once myself I know this. All I needed was the truth and simplicty of the Gospel of Salvation preached to me, not something dressed up to resemble the world so I could accept it. I had, had enough of the world it held nothing for me, I needed to be told that I should repent of my sins.

This young pastor seeks the attention of the world, and has made it to "Nightline" , and also to the "Maury Povich Show", oh and he seeks donations to meet this yearly budget of a million plus dollars!
OH yes definitely a Rick Warren in the making ....ahhhh when will all this utter nonsense stop?

This young pastor is being hailed by other "Church" planters as some what of a marketing genius...well isn't that special! Move over Rick Warren!

Call me cynical but I just smell one huge rat in the mix here. God help this young man's soul and the souls of all who involve themselves in this endeavor.