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Monday, August 31, 2009

BLASPHEMING of the HOLY GHOST-part 1



Here again are John Crowder and Benjamin Dunn speaking on u-tube, this time to children!
Crowder, Dunn, King, Joyner, Bentley....shall all have their place in the lake of Fire for Hell hath enlarged its self for such as these....If you can stomach it-there is a part 2 below...

Blasphemy, deffinition of term= To speak irreverently (disrespectfully) of God, to desecrate by impious talk (lack of reverence for God).

BLASPHEMING of The HOLY GHOST -part 2


These people are so far from God that they do not fully understand the jeopardy that they have placed themselves in.

Saturday, May 9, 2009

Understanding 1 Corinthians 14-Part 4-Video of Blind Leaders of the Blind


If you are a born again spirit filled believer and this video doesn't make you want to vomit-then there is something severely wrong with your walk with the Lord, and your understanding of God's Holy Word. If you type into u-tube John Crowder and Benjamin Dunn, you can see more abomination filled videos, that will make you to understand why God's judgment is upon us.

God's Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Jesus Christ, was not given to us that we may walk about in a "spirit" induced stupor, as these men teach. This video and these men have "another spirit" and they are heaping judgments on themselves by portraying the Holy Spirit as a vehicle through which to satisfy your former lust for drugs, by instead using the Holy Spirit to fulfill your fleshly lusts and desires. This is Abomination before an All Holy God!

Men such as these in this video are making a living off the backs of the young sheep and they are laughing at they prey all the way to the bank. Thus they are heaping curses to themselves, and God will add plagues to them except they repent

1 Corinthians 14-continued from Part 3

15. What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

16. Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?

Again it is reiterated that if we are to pray yes -we may pray in the spirit-in tongues, but we are also to pray in our own language from our own hearts, for our own needs and the needs of others, and to knowingly give Glory and Praise to God. Some even sing in tongues, but we are also to sing in our known language. In other words how would some one who comes in knowing nothing about tongues, or God, understand God or anything about him.

17.For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.

18. I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

19. Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

20. Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.

21. In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.

Here it says - yes tongues is a good thing-it is always a good thing to give thanks to God-but in the tongues others cannot be edified-and again when we come together publicly its about edifying the whole body, not just ourselves.

Paul says-look saints I speak/pray in tongues more than all of you-BUT-when we come together I would rather prophesy in a known language that all may be edified and learn of God.

Here it is like Paul is saying-Hello think about it people use your reasoning power as grown ups- tongues were to be a sign to the unbelievers because it was prophesied that it would happen, and when the Jews heard the tongues they were supposed to acknowledge-Ah! this is what was prophesied of old- as it is written, this is the sign that these are my people and I am in them, but yet still the Jews would not hear and acknowledge the saints or that this was of God.

22. Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

23. If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?

24. But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:

25. And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

Again Tongues were to be a sign for the unbeliever, that they might acknowledge that God was again moving amongst His people. Prophesying on the other hand was for the edification of the body.

Those who don't have a full understanding of tongues, and their proper function with in the believers life, or the body as a group, if they come in amongst us and we all at one time are speaking in tongues, they will then think we are all mad.

It would be the same if all prophesied in their known language at once-it would be Chaos- therefore order is commanded.

However if all prophesied in an understood language, at least there would be some understanding of what was said, and the people would be brought under conviction of the Holy Spirit as He dealt with their hearts and they then would worship God and say that indeed God was in us.

26. How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

27. If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

28. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

29. Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

30. If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Here in is given the order for when we come together as a body, when it comes to Tongues, Prophecy, sharing doctrine, Praise and Worship, Testimony....All are to be done to edify the body-If tongues are to be spoken it is to be in God's order and with and interpreter-or we are to be silent! We are not to all jump up at once, we are to prefer one another, wait on one another.

Prophesies are to be judged by other prophets. God is not the author of confusion but of Peace!

34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

35. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Here the women were out of order, they were obviously throwing questions out to be answered during the teaching time. They were told to keep slient within the teaching time and save their questions for their husbands at home. It is still a shame for any one to interupt a service or teaching time unless there is a period set aside for questioning what is being taught. The word says that "your sons and your daughters shall prophesy" which takes using our voice within the corporate body, and so God is not forbidding women to speak, but that things be done in order. God does not contradict Himself.

36. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

38. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

39. Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

40. Let all things be done decently and in order.

If we are going to profess to be filled with "The Holy Spirit" then we will line ourselves up with the Word of God, not go our own way. We should all covet to prophesy but not forbid tongues amongst us-but all things are to be done decently and in their order as stated!

End of Part 4...to be continued!

Understanding 1 Corinthians 14-Part 3-Video shows offering of Strange Fire to God!


1 Corinthians 14

1. Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.


If a saint has the fruit of Charity whether they be young or old, they do not make a vain public display of themselves, they do not seek their own praise, nor do they seek their own followers. One who is full of charity is a humble soul, not a vain and brazen soul. For more on Charity read 1 Corinthians 13.

The youth are to be an example of Holiness to us old fogies.

1 Timothy 4:12-13

12Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

13Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.


The testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy. The Holy Spirit speaks of the things of Christ, the Holy Spirit draws men to Christ.

Back to -1 Corinthians 14

2. For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.


Tongues is, are, spoken to God, the natural man does not have knowledge of what is spoken, or prayed (that would include the person speaking them).


3. But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.


We are to come together to edify one another even the more so as we see The Day of The Lord approaching, drawing ever nearer. Prophesying is of benefit to the whole body. We are not to come together to pleasure ourselves, but to be of benefit to the whole body.

4He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.


Speaking in tongues edifies the person speaking in tongues not the person hearing the tongues. With the exception of tongues being a language recognized by one in attendance, as on the day of Pentecost.

5. I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.


All things within the body are to be done for the benefit of the whole body. It is better to prophesy within the body of believers and non believers, unless there is an interpreter (to interpret the message in tongues) so that people can understand when they hear a prophecy in their own language, that is edifying.

6. Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?

7. And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?

8For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

9So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

10There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.

11Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.

Again tongues are not spiritually profitable for others if they can’t understand what is being said.

12. Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

We are to all desire to be profitable unto others, understood by others, that we may all grow thereby and be edified.

13. Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.

14For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

If we have the gift of tongues we are to pray for the gift of interpretations of tongues in order to to edify the body, and be in God's divine order.

(There is a difference in the gift of tongues”, which is where believers give messages to the body, and in the individual praying in tongues, which is given to all who receive the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, and is to be used individually in our own prayer time before God. This can occur within a group of saints who are intent in travailing in prayer-then none knows what is being prayed-the spirit makes intercession-but this is done in private not in the midst of a congregation.)

End of Part 3 to be continued.

Understanding 1 Corinthians 14-PART 2- Another Video of How Not To Display Ourselves As A Body.


This I understand was filmed at what was called "The New Ecstatics Conference" with Ben Dunn in Santa Cruz California.

"Oh God move on the hearts of these young people with Your Truth...open their eyes Oh Lord to this error they have been led into."

Those who encourage such behavior as seen in this video are leading many astray into deception and far from God’s divine order, and into deception, and introducing them to "another spirit", and are one of the reasons God’s judgment is upon us.


Plagues are going to strike such evil seducing leaders as Bently, Crowder and Dunn for God is not mocked, and yes you can take that to the bank because God doesn't change and He is no respector of persons in judgment!


When the children of God are instructed not to love the world or the things of the world – why then are these young people encouraged to bring the world with them into the church.

Just as the Catholic church of Rome does not require its followers to give up their idols, but bring them with them into the church, just so as they call themselves Roman Catholics...so does this "new breed" bring its heathen practices and music into the church, and call it HOLY.


You will see these so called “spirit” filled youth, festooned with tattoos and piercings-a manifestation of pagan and heathen practices and a sign of rebellion.


Todd Bentley, John Crowder and Benjamin Dunn proudly flaunt themselves as practitioners of these abominations.


God clearly instructed His people not to take markings upon themselves as the pagans and the heathen do. We, as the children of God, are instructed to come out from the world and be separate, not bring the heathen practices with us.


But hey, who cares right? This is the new breed’s way!


It might pay for those who lead these young people, to read what God did to His people when they mingled the profane with the Holy.


The rock music these young people are encouraged to play is just like the worlds music, because they just can’t forsake the world. They are in love with the music and they can’t let go of it so they put “Jesusname” in once in a while and call it HOLY!


And they think this strange fire is accepted as worship before and ALL HOLY GOD?!

They are deceived!


But hey,! who cares what God thinks right?

They will do what ever they believe is right in their own eyes it seems.


Listen young people Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and is an abomination to and ALL HOLY GOD. You need to run from these men you are currently following.


Right now I can just hear some young people saying, “Ah, there she goes what a legalistic old fogie-how dare she try to rob us of our pleasures


This is a Word for Those young people who will hear what the Spirit is saying to the church.

Many young people I am sure will be angered, and only want to debate this issue in order to justify their behavior.

Yes we will get to 1Corinthians 14 soon, in Part 3

End of Part 2

Understanding 1 Corinthians 14-INTRODUCTION- Part 1-Video of How Not To Display Oursleves in Public



INTRODUCTION


Warning:

If you don’t believe that the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is for every born again believer even yet today, then don’t read this blog, because it will just make you angry, and I don’t want to make you angry, so just skip this one.


I have had several experiences over the years since my new born existence, where I have come across those leaders who pay no heed to
1 Corinthians 14 when it comes to the directing of their followers publicly as a body.

I was in a service once where a pastor stood up and instructed the people to all speak in tongues at once, which is totally against God’s order as it is written in 1 Corinthians 14, and when I shared this with him, he said, “Well we will just have to agree to disagree.”

Excuse me? What is that! The Word of God will stand for ever whether we agree with it or not! Let God be true and every man a liar!


I have also seen leaders so intent upon the people becoming “drunk” in the Spirit and manifesting the “gifts” of the Spirit, that they neglected the importance of their followers manifesting the “fruit” of the Spirit.
To them it was more important that the people fall out on the floor, yell and scream, than whether their lives measured up to the gospel or not.


It seemed to be some what of a trophy for the leaders to flaunt what they called “the workings of the Holy Spirit” in their midst. Some what like Todd Bentley, and the “Elijah Prophets” bunch today.

Unfortunately all such workings were not, and are not of the Holy Spirit, they are of “another spirit”.


When the Holy Spirit is at work in a person’s life they begin to manifest the character and nature of Jesus Christ-the one who saved their wretched soul. Without that character and nature, that Holiness, no man shall see God!


These days with U-Tube we have access to a "new breed" of those who are being led astray, and out of God’s order when it comes to manifestations that some claim are of the Holy Spirit.

Not all manifestations are Holy manifestations!

The Holy Spirit was given that the children of God might receive power to become witnesses of Jesus Christ, that we may speak the Word of God with boldness. Not that we may fall “drunken” in the public streets, with someone standing over us waving a shoe in our face chanting-“Shoe, Shoe, Shoe”, this is totally out of order as shown in this video on U-Tube.

Two of the key young leaders of this “new drunken movement” are John Crowder and his pal Ben Dunn….who lead young people in “drunk” fests, we will show another video on U-Tube in part 2

End of Part 1

Monday, January 19, 2009

The Signs and Wonders of Deceiving Spirits

Patricia King, her face, her conference add, encouraging the sheep to grow in "the supernatural"...be careful who you follow after saints of God, you may get more than you bargained for!




Matt Sorger, His face, one of His conference adds.











Joshua Mills, his face, his book, his hands complete with gold dust!









John Crowder, his face, his book, his drug as he says, "Wasted on Jesus without apology"



He and His buddy Ben Dunn have some videos on u-tube that are an abomination.


















I was going to post a video here of Patrica King in extasy over Joshua Mills and his manifestations, but thought better of it. ....Why?
Because it seems that the seducing spirits in some of today's false prophets is so strong that unless a person is totally grounded in Jesus Christ, they are going to be deceived by these false prophets.

Thousands of people have been flocking to "Conferences" across America where they are introduced to "the supernatural". They are assured that these things are of God, and evidently that assurance is enough for most.
The false prophets holding these conferences are manifesting, gold dust, sapphire dust, small gems, oil and feathers and who knows what else.
People seem to love this, they get ecstatic about it. Every one and their uncle it seems also is also being visited by angelic beings. Ahhhhhh.....
They tell of orbs of light, so do the UFO-logists, and the mediums in their seances.
If you have happened upon any ghost hunter tv programs, orbs of light are quite often seen captured on video. So orbs of light are supernatural alright, but a demonic manifestation not a Godly one.
It seems that many today are more interested in manifesting "signs and wonders", than manifesting the character and nature of Jesus Christ.
Joshua Mills it seems is as ring leader of this gold dust, oil etc. phenomenon. Patricia King is a promoter of Joshua Mills. Others who are involved in angelic manifestations are of course, Todd Bentley, Matt Sorger, John Crowder and many others.
What is most alarming to me is that these deceivers are going after the young, the unlearned, the venerable amongst us. They are manifesting themselves as hip and trendy, they are seducing spirits, with doctrines of demons.
However many who supposedly have bee saved for years, are also falling prey to this great deception as well.

I had a good friend tell me recently that there had been a couple in their church that follows unceasingly after these "Signs & Wonders". After attending a number of these conferences, the husband had received of the ability to manifest said, "Gold dust."
(You will not find one place in scripture where God manifest himself through gold dust).
It was told me by my friend that this man is a very arrogant yet charismatic person, and that many are being deceived by him. This man is holds bible studies in his home, and after attending
several of these bible studies my friend began to feel uneasy about being there. She went to bed one night after one of these bible studies, and awoke to see a demon standing over her. She awakened her husband to see it, but he could not see what she was seeing. I believe that God opened her eyes to see the true spirit behind the man leading these bible studies.
Long story short, if it were not for the saving and keeping power of the Holy Spirit I believe that my dear friend could have scummed to this satanic deception.

Dear Lord, help this evil generation, open the eyes of those blinded by these false apostles and prophets.
A wicked generation seeketh after signs and there shall be no sign given them but that of Jonah the prophet.
Matt 12:38-39
38. Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
You can read this same admonition in Matthew 16:2-4

The signs that the Word of God speaks of in these last days are those that instill fear in the hearts of men.
Luke 21:25-26
25. And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26. Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
The signs and wonders that accompanied the disciples of Christ were for the furtherance of the preaching of the Gospel of Christ. Also to bring people to salvation, and to set the captives free. The disciples did not go about preaching about and focusing on the "signs and wonders". They preached Christ and Him crucified. They were to cast out devils, not invite them into their presence.
Romans 15:9
9. Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.
There are also signs spoken of that are committed by false prophets that if it were possible could deceived even the very elect of God.
Matt 24:24-Jesus said
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

May God open the eyes of the deceived ones, and give them the gift of repentance.
A Seed Sower.