How early was the corrupting of the "Church" taking place?
It began at the time of Christ, when He was preaching the truth, multitudes left him and followed him no more. Yet others preached a false gospel, to lead people astray from the Truth.
Now to the subject of Natural Israel…Many teach varied things in regards to Natural Israel, and their place with The Most High God, this is what I believe:
A Gentile is grafted into the Olive Tree/The Israel of God, when they are born again in Jesus Christ/Yeshua, therefore becoming a part of Eternal Israel.
The Gentiles were given this opportunity when God brought blindness in part to the Jewish Nation of Israel.
God says there is an end to “The Times of the Gentiles” and that the Natural Jewish Nation of Israel will be blinded until “The Fullness of the Gentiles be come in”. Then God says He will open the eyes of the Natural Jewish Nation of Israel and will turn ungodliness from Jacob/Israel.
Genesis 32:28-The Birth of Israel as a Nation
And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Romans 11:25-26
25. For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
I believe that the Word plainly states that Blindness in Part came to Israel through the Mighty Grace and Mercy of The Most High God, so that the Gentiles may be grafted into the Olive Tree of God’s Eternal Israel.
It began at the time of Christ, when He was preaching the truth, multitudes left him and followed him no more. Yet others preached a false gospel, to lead people astray from the Truth.
Now to the subject of Natural Israel…Many teach varied things in regards to Natural Israel, and their place with The Most High God, this is what I believe:
A Gentile is grafted into the Olive Tree/The Israel of God, when they are born again in Jesus Christ/Yeshua, therefore becoming a part of Eternal Israel.
The Gentiles were given this opportunity when God brought blindness in part to the Jewish Nation of Israel.
God says there is an end to “The Times of the Gentiles” and that the Natural Jewish Nation of Israel will be blinded until “The Fullness of the Gentiles be come in”. Then God says He will open the eyes of the Natural Jewish Nation of Israel and will turn ungodliness from Jacob/Israel.
Genesis 32:28-The Birth of Israel as a Nation
And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Romans 11:25-26
25. For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
I believe that the Word plainly states that Blindness in Part came to Israel through the Mighty Grace and Mercy of The Most High God, so that the Gentiles may be grafted into the Olive Tree of God’s Eternal Israel.
There are many natural Jews whose eyes have been opened to Yeshua, and salvation in Him since the time of Christ, through this present time.
However I believe as the Word states that there is yet to be a great move of God- where He un-blinds the eyes of a great remnant of Natural Israel, that they may see Him, and Know Him as He is. This remnant I believe is the 144 thousand of the twelve tribes of Natural Israel. I can be wrong, others can be wrong, but God’s Word is never wrong and time will prove the Word of God to be True!
Revelation 22:17-20
17. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
18. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
20. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
I have always prefered to listen to the Holy Spirit who tells me what the Lord would have me to know. As opposed to listening to the many ideas and interpretations of mens hearts, that I have witnessed over the years. Hope this is helpful to those who are interested! GBU all, Seed!
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This is the Word of YHWH applied plain and simple with no spin Helen. But watch out, Babylon is not going to like the grafted in part.Grafted in challenges Babylon’s authority.Babylon loves to boast and exault it's authority over the Torah of YHWH and Torah Messiah Yeshua.
17 And if some of the branches were plucked off; and you an olive from the desert, were in-grafted in there place and have become an heir of the root and fatness of the olive-tree;18 Do not boast over the branches. For if you boast, you do not sustain the root,
but the root sustains you.
AENT (Aramaic English New Testament)
In Master YHWH our Yeshua,
Peter.
The 144,000 aren't JW's or Natural Jews. The 144,000 is a spiritual look of the Remnant...called out church of the Most High God. Those who are sealed spiritually by the Holy Spirit of Promise. It's symbolic not literal.
The 144,000 represents the remnant seed, all the Tribes. The names of the tribes belong to, refer to and are applied to the whole Church of Jesus Christ.
It's a beautiful picture of the saved from all generations up until the day Jesus returns, and all that belongs to them are within these names...
Tribes Meaning
Tribe of Judah = Praise
Tribe of Rueban = behold a son
Tribe of Gad = troop or great company
Tribe of Aser = happy/blessed
Tribe of Nepthalim = wrestling/struggling
Tribe of Manasses = forget
Tribe of Simeon = hearing
Tribe of Levi = joined
Tribe of Issachar = price was paid
Tribe of Zabulon = dwellth/dwelling
Tribe of Joseph = fruitful/bountiful
Tribe of Benjamin = son of my joy/son of my right hand
Notice Dan is not included, it means judged. In eternity judgement is past. We are judged worthy not by our own merit, but for what Jesus has done for us on the cross, Amen!
All the names apply to All the church, the Old and New Testament.
Remember the Book of Revealation is a book of metaphor Sis. It's a book of word pictures shown by signs, I like to say a slide show of events not to be taken literally, there's a deeper meaning in similitudes.
It states all the tribes of Israel, so if that is true why is Dan not mentioned in that part of the Scripture? Something to ponder, huh? It's not there because of the meaning, which means judged. See it now?
It's a symbolic number of total completion, the complete number of people from Adam to the last soul saved before Jesus returns and time ends.
Many are blinded by teaching from those who teach scofieldism and dispensationalism. Revelation Chapter 7 wipes out Scofieldism.
If Daniel and Revelations is misunderstood by those who teach, their prophecies and explanations of endtimes are all mixed up, period! The Fullness of the Gentiles will come in when Jesus comes back. The time for the natural Jews to come to Jesus is now, tomorrow may be too late, they have no special place because they are Jews. We love them like we love all people, but as I said, they can still be grafted back into the olive tree.
Just like the two witnesses, people have all kinds of answers for that, and thats because of scofieldism and dispensationalism. And it's very simple. The Two Witnesses are The Word and The Spirit.
The Word and the Spirit is a witness for the Lord. Jesus is the Word, remember the White Horse in Rev 6:2? It's the representation of the gospel going forth.
White stands for purity, holiness, and Jesus is that rider.
Of course Dispensationalism and Scofieldism teaches it is anti-christ.
But the Word, which is Jesus goes forth conquering and to conquer. He wins, defeat's, and He ultimately wins.
And of course we know the Red Horse always follows on the heals of the White Horse. The red horse takes peace from the earth and causes strife, trouble, resistance, and opposition.
If you proclaim the truth you will find contention. The Word disrupts and interferes with peoples lives.
The two witnesses stand in us as living witnesses that the Lord always has a people on the earth until the LAST day. That's why it's so wonderful that all the tribes names apply to each and everyone of us.
God is not a respector of persons. He is primarily interested in one thing, His church, not any certain people.
Now I know that steps on the heals of all of those who are caught up in scofieldism and dispensatiopnalism, but truth is what we desire and that can only be found in the Scriptures. Not everyone teaching out there is teaching the truth. Just keep that in mind. Seek the Lord on these things, forget what you've been taught and seek Him, He reveals the truth to those who diligently seek Him.
God Bless Sis, and thanks for allowing me to participate.
Yes Deborah of late I have heard 2 gentlemen teach such things as you are sharing-I don't agree with their teachings-but hey we will see the truth play out before all our eyes in the not to distant future-God bless and thank you for sharing your beliefs!
Occam’s razor, also known as the “principle of parsimony,” suggests that the simplest workable theories are also the best and most useful. (Sometimes spelled Ockham, after William of Ockham.)Spiritualization of the Word when it is not called for is a common tactic of Babylon. There are times when we must look for something beyond the literal but the Word clues us to this requirement. So when there is no clue that the literal is not intended than we must accept the literal. Unchecked spiritualization leads to all sorts of error and rebellion against the Torah of YHWH. Babylon often uses spiritualization to advance its anti- Torah and therefore anti -Yeshua agenda. It wants to advance its religion and pet doctrines. Babylon wants to interpret the Word (Spiritualize when not warranted) so that it can control the people of YHWH and lead them into rebellion against Torah Messiah Yeshua. B’RESHEET (GENESIS) 3:1b “Did Elohim say”…?... Look at Revelation 7. Is there any good reason to spiritualize the One Hundred and Forty and for thousand of the Israelites in to anything other than what the plane reading of the text suggests? Is there any precedent for spiritualizing this One Hundred and Forty and for thousand of the Israelites? Revelation 7:9 talks about a multitude from the nations that cannot be numbered. Us grafted in folks are from the nations. That is the beauty of it. We get to be grafted in and we are representatives of our peoples in the commonwealth of Israel. We become fearers of the Elohim of Israel with all the same privileges and obligations as the natural branches. YHWH is our Elohim and He is our Torah Yeshua. We will bring the unique beauty placed within each of our peoples to the whole symphony of eternal praise. YHWH has an eternal plan and purpose for all people. He has revealed His eternal, unchangeable and literal plan for those with the blood of Heber. And He will do it literally because He is faithful to His Word. Why are people so jealous of what YHWH has promised to do with those who came from Heber? We get all the same privileges and obligations. Stay the course Helen what you heard from YHWH is true. It is the plane Word with no Babylonian spin.
Peter.
We sure will, in that I agree. If you are interested Pastor David Meyer has a wonderful bunch of teachings on Daniel and Revelation, their on the ltmaudio site I gave you.
I used to believe the same as you, but after hearing Pastor David show the err of the teaching, I see things in a different perspective. I don't think it's as much as a belief system as it is the truth from the written Word taught w/o the err of scofieldism and dispensationalism.
All I know is Jesus is coming back sooner then most think, and I'm waiting for that day. I'm also glad that I can feel comfortable in coming here and reading the truth you share on your blog concerning these last days, well except for this. We do disagree, but I'm confident the Lord will pay it forward for His Elects sake.
God Bless You Sister...
Listen Deborah, I must tell you that I appreciate you.
Why?
Because I have had some experiences with people who call themselves "The True children of God" who when you question what they teach, or do not agree with what they teach or you dare to question their idol...they attack you, demean you and cast you out...So that fact that you are still civil with me when I openly tell you I am not in agreement with certain teachings, is a refreshing encouragement.
I have lost many an internet buddy over my beliefs.
However people who I know personally in the flesh and blood sense, when we have had disagreements over certain things we remain friends because we know oneanother...we love oneanother and we forgive oneanother, and we pray for one another...
I have found that some internet friendships that I have made have come to naught...
Some however are lasting friendships...because these people Love God...He is their idol not man, not their favorite chat room host..These types of people love God and love the brethren and realise that God is not finished with any of us yet, and we can pray for one another, love, forgive and encourage one another in the Lord.
Just wanted to share that!
God Bless you Helen/aka seed sower
Greetings in The Lord Helen,
Very good post and I thank you for sharing your heart in this matter. I have also experienced this, and the first thing that popped into my mind is, where is the love and fruits of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
I find that there are often times a few things that other's and I disagree on, although I'm confident the Lord will shine through in that situation.
Whats important here is we come in one accord and we preach Jesus Christ, He get's the glory! We can do nothing of ourselves. Everything else will work is way out, and that's what matters the most.
I love ya with the agape love of Christ Jesus. I appreciate you and the work you do in the Lord. May we continue to press on in Him, for we have a race to finish, and He will be here soon to receive His bride.
God Bless you Sister, Holy Hugs, Deborah
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